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>> reporter: we did amazing work in libya to help depose moammar gadhafi. but at the same time, there are real elements in tunisia, libya, that are really quite against the american interests. if you look at the polling, very high percentages, it will be hard for the governments that are trying to formulate themselves and try to regain control of the nations and control the negative elements of the society. >> michael lighter, thank you very much for joining us from washington. and now, to how all of it became political today in the race for president. mitt romney somehow wanted today to be about america apologizing for its values, even after it became clear that today was about the death of an american ambassador and others, in one of two attacks on american interests on 9/11, no less. and instead of backing away, romney doubled down on his position. our chief political correspondent chuck todd has been following this all day. >> reporter: good evening, well, last night, mitt romney turned the attack and brought it into the presidential campaign, despite b
>> reporter: we did amazing work in libya to help depose moammar gadhafi. but at the same time, there are real elements in tunisia, libya, that are really quite against the american interests. if you look at the polling, very high percentages, it will be hard for the governments that are trying to formulate themselves and try to regain control of the nations and control the negative elements of the society. >> michael lighter, thank you very much for joining us from washington. and...
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. >>> when moammar gadhafi was still alive, when he was still the dictator of libya, gadhafi had a plan to settle the conflict between israel and the palestinians. to settle that issue once and for all in a very simple way, all you had to do, he said, was make a new place. a new place that would be called isratine. so it was like israel and palestine but you combined them so it would be isratine. he thought just calling a new place that would settle everything. moammar gadhafi also had a condoleezza price problem in he loved condoleezza rice too much. when his compound in tripoli was overrun by rebel forces one thing he found in his living quarters was a mash book of pictures and clippings about condoleezza rice. every page a new thing about condoleezza rice. eke. gadhafi it turns out was also afraid of the top floors of buildings that had multiple floors. ga dauf dhafi also never liked to go anywhere without a ukrainian nurse. he had a whole fleet of ukrainian nurses. there was one familiar blond one he liked with him at all times. gadhafi's son once booked mariah carey to perform for
. >>> when moammar gadhafi was still alive, when he was still the dictator of libya, gadhafi had a plan to settle the conflict between israel and the palestinians. to settle that issue once and for all in a very simple way, all you had to do, he said, was make a new place. a new place that would be called isratine. so it was like israel and palestine but you combined them so it would be isratine. he thought just calling a new place that would settle everything. moammar gadhafi also had...
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necessarily believe that the drones ever left libya in their surveillance role after the toppling of gadhafi. do you think in egypt it's possible that the u.s. has to consider fortifying security around the embassy with further marines there? and do you think that what's being sent to libya may actually end up in something looking like a military engagement there, of any kind, or do you think that's essentially going to stay a defensive posture? >> reporter: i think there's already types of of special operations going on in libya, in mali, where al qaeda has operated. there was great concern in the military community that all of this libyan weaponry suddenly disappeared as gadhafi's regime collapsed. so i know the military has been very concerned about this, concerned about the numerous militant factions. if you remember, when we covered the libyan revolution, there was all this weaponry, these rpgs, the armories that were being looted. well, when the regime fell, a lot of that weaponry just disappeared. and the rebels never disarmed. there was no weapons collection program, so the country s
necessarily believe that the drones ever left libya in their surveillance role after the toppling of gadhafi. do you think in egypt it's possible that the u.s. has to consider fortifying security around the embassy with further marines there? and do you think that what's being sent to libya may actually end up in something looking like a military engagement there, of any kind, or do you think that's essentially going to stay a defensive posture? >> reporter: i think there's already types...
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relationship with the new government out of benghazi supporting those rebels who were trying to oust gadhafi. the fact that he was one of the victims henrichson says shows that the new government does not have control and it is so unstable that it could spell trouble for the u.s. >> it's going to have a negative impact, at least initially, because the united states will be very wary of libya. they'll be very wary of the fact are they being told one thing by the government that wants to cozy up, wants american money. yet on the other hand are they encouraging elements, or at least giving them a certain tolerance to operate. we've seen that happen in egypt where the government will say one thing in english to us and another thing in arabic to its followers and other people in the world. one of the things to look for, do they really round up these people? are they tried? are they brought to justice? if that doesn't happen, that's a pretty good sign that the government is either complicit or doesn't want to be bothered very much. >> reporter: and henrichson warns that the u.s. cannot afford to l
relationship with the new government out of benghazi supporting those rebels who were trying to oust gadhafi. the fact that he was one of the victims henrichson says shows that the new government does not have control and it is so unstable that it could spell trouble for the u.s. >> it's going to have a negative impact, at least initially, because the united states will be very wary of libya. they'll be very wary of the fact are they being told one thing by the government that wants to...
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in many ways he helped them achieve the liberation of moammar gadhafi so it is even more tragic that he was killed by this mob. >> richard engel reporting from cairo. just about to go to the state department. secretary clinton expected to speak any minutes. just a couple of other minutes from the statement released by the state department and secretary clinton a little earlier. she says all the americans we lost in yesterday's attacks have made the ultimate sacrifice. we condemn this vicious and violent attack that took their lives which they had committed to helping the libyan people reach for a better future. america's diplomats and development experts stand on the front lines every day for our country. we are honored by the service each and every one of them gives. andrea mitchell. >> andrea mitchell at the state department. this is the first ambassador killed in the line of duty, andrea, since 1979. >> and, of course, that was in afghanistan. that's with the russian invasion of afghanistan, so this is an extraordinary occurrence, and it should be overlooked that three other ameri
in many ways he helped them achieve the liberation of moammar gadhafi so it is even more tragic that he was killed by this mob. >> richard engel reporting from cairo. just about to go to the state department. secretary clinton expected to speak any minutes. just a couple of other minutes from the statement released by the state department and secretary clinton a little earlier. she says all the americans we lost in yesterday's attacks have made the ultimate sacrifice. we condemn this...
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led a costly nato war to topple gadhafi, militants torched the complex and kied the first american ambassador is over 30 years. >> how could this happen in a country we helped liberate in a city we helped save from destruction? >> as the libyan president flew to benghazi to visit the destroyed consulate today, he said he deeply regretted the loss of life. >> we're doing our best to bring them to justice. >> the attack showed he does not have complete control of his country. in cairo where the united states turned its back on its old friend hosni mubarak, radicals are troying to destroy the embassy with running battles with riot police in tahrir square, tear gas and stones. it's ironic that with american diplomats inside the embassy who helped to give these demonstrators, these protestors a voice and allowed them to actually carry out this anti-american clashes that we're seeing right now. so what did washington think would happen if he won? as the new egyptian president morsi was campaigning to lead the world's biggest arab country in elections the u.s. supported, he used radical creatures to
led a costly nato war to topple gadhafi, militants torched the complex and kied the first american ambassador is over 30 years. >> how could this happen in a country we helped liberate in a city we helped save from destruction? >> as the libyan president flew to benghazi to visit the destroyed consulate today, he said he deeply regretted the loss of life. >> we're doing our best to bring them to justice. >> the attack showed he does not have complete control of his...
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this is one of the americans who had the biggest hand in helping unseat gadhafi and support the rebels and now to meet this fate, i very much hope that it doesn't disrupt what needs to be a very close partnership between the government of libya, the libyan people and the united states. >> my colleague, michael leiter, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> we'll be right back. nah. he's probably got... [ voice of dennis ] allstate. they can bundle all your policies together. lot of paperwork. [ doug ] actually... [ voice of dennis ] an allstate agent can help do the switching and paperwork for you. well, it probably costs a lot. [ voice of dennis ] allstate can save you up to 30% more when you bundle. well, his dog's stupid. [ voice of dennis ] poodles are one of the world's smartest breeds. ♪ bundle and save with an allstate agent. are you in good hands? the calcium they take because they don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. that's why my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all abou
this is one of the americans who had the biggest hand in helping unseat gadhafi and support the rebels and now to meet this fate, i very much hope that it doesn't disrupt what needs to be a very close partnership between the government of libya, the libyan people and the united states. >> my colleague, michael leiter, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> we'll be right back. nah. he's probably got... [ voice of dennis ] allstate. they can bundle all your policies together....
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the problem that libya has always had is after gadhafi fell, all of these militias that have been running around the country never disarmed. and some of the militias are affiliated with al qaeda, and one of the militias decided to carry out an attack against the conslate. now there does seem to be some tentative moves by the government and also just by the people of benghazi to disarm some of these militias, to try and disband them. if that's successful and libya can finally move on from its revolutionary phase and become a normal government, then i think libya can have a very positive future. small country, big country but small population. lots of oil. it has a lot of things going for it. it just needs to disarm and start behaving a little better. >> richard engel in afghanistan for us this morning. you can watch more of richard's reporting along with the rest of our nbc team reporting from the region all week long. "at the brink" starting tonight. >>> katty kay, a lot of questions now in this campaign about the administration's handling of what is still in parts, in places, a chaotic m
the problem that libya has always had is after gadhafi fell, all of these militias that have been running around the country never disarmed. and some of the militias are affiliated with al qaeda, and one of the militias decided to carry out an attack against the conslate. now there does seem to be some tentative moves by the government and also just by the people of benghazi to disarm some of these militias, to try and disband them. if that's successful and libya can finally move on from its...
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assassinated in that safe house and lured by the organization working with the united states to overturn gadhafi and police libya these last years but opened relationships with al qaeda and the darkest elements of the jihadists. there's suggestion ambassador stevens was murdered in revenge for the death of a libyan hero to the al qaeda forces al-libbi killed by a drone strike june 4th. >> john, what you're saying is round up the usual suspect, you're saying they have not really caught the perpetrators who killed ambassador stevens? >> the perpetrators are al qaeda and the jihadists of the uma. it's a vast organization. >> thank you for that. let me go to paul wulff wits, former deputy secretary of defense. thank you for coming back on the program. what's your take on this? president obama said no act of terror will go unpunished. he said we're going to bring them all to justice. what happens now? how do we bring them all to justice? >> clearly, we're talking about libya, it will happen with the cooperation of the libyans. one of the important things to put in context here, it's almost lost in ev
assassinated in that safe house and lured by the organization working with the united states to overturn gadhafi and police libya these last years but opened relationships with al qaeda and the darkest elements of the jihadists. there's suggestion ambassador stevens was murdered in revenge for the death of a libyan hero to the al qaeda forces al-libbi killed by a drone strike june 4th. >> john, what you're saying is round up the usual suspect, you're saying they have not really caught the...
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the libyan city america helped free from the oppressive regime of moammar gadhafi. chris stevens was among the americans killed after protesters stormed the embassy last night. demonstrators also swarmed the u.s. embassy in cairo, scaling the walls and tearing apart the american flag. the attacks are believed to be in reaction to a obscure movie film in the u.s. by an israeli citizen one that ridicules islam and the prophet mohammed. today, flags at the capitol have been lowered to half mast and the president spoke earlier in the rose garden addressing the tragedy. >> the united states condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. since our founding, the united states has been a nation that respects all faiths. we reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. but there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. none. >> not content to sit on the sidelines at a critical moment in his presidential campaign, governor mitt romney plunged himself into the middle of this developing crisis, sharply criticizi
the libyan city america helped free from the oppressive regime of moammar gadhafi. chris stevens was among the americans killed after protesters stormed the embassy last night. demonstrators also swarmed the u.s. embassy in cairo, scaling the walls and tearing apart the american flag. the attacks are believed to be in reaction to a obscure movie film in the u.s. by an israeli citizen one that ridicules islam and the prophet mohammed. today, flags at the capitol have been lowered to half mast...
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and i think the reality is that after the united states and nato had gone into libya it oust gadhafi, i think there will be far less appetite to want on do anything in syria. >> probably also raises huge questions about money from america that is going to fund some of these governments particularly in egypt where it's $1.5 billion plus another billion that was being put together in a package right now. how do you think that plays out in congress at this point? >> that's absolutely right. egypt is a country which has i think the second or third largest aid package from the united states and our embassy and cairo was breached. and the current president of egypt, mr. morsi, hasn't really apologized for that. so i think as we're beginning to cut back on our foreign aid budget and i think there's a bipartisan desire to reduce our footprint in the middle east, i think a lot of people are going to be looking at our aid to egypt and wondering whether that's the wisest way to spend our money these days. >> so obviously this is very difficult to try and handicap at this point, but if we were to
and i think the reality is that after the united states and nato had gone into libya it oust gadhafi, i think there will be far less appetite to want on do anything in syria. >> probably also raises huge questions about money from america that is going to fund some of these governments particularly in egypt where it's $1.5 billion plus another billion that was being put together in a package right now. how do you think that plays out in congress at this point? >> that's absolutely...
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be very angry here in the united states given everything that was invested in liberating libya from gadhafi and coming at the same time as the attacks in cairo and concerns that the governments -- the local governments there, at least initially, did not properly protect u.s. lives and u.s. property. >> all right, andrea. it sounds like people are trying to get in touch with you. we'll let you work the phones for a minute. richard, let me go back to you. we should take a step back and explain why these mobs are, in fact, in the streets, why an american diplomat is dead this morning. it's about, i guess, this film that's online. you can find it. you have to dig pretty deep to find it on youtube, but it is there. but explain how it's playing there in egypt and libya. >> reporter: well, almost everything about this story is disgusting. this film is disgusting. it's amateur. it's comical. it is absolutely insulting toward islam. there are reports that the maker of the movie is now in hiding, fearing for his life someplace. this was an obscure youtube-type movie that would have probably gone nowh
be very angry here in the united states given everything that was invested in liberating libya from gadhafi and coming at the same time as the attacks in cairo and concerns that the governments -- the local governments there, at least initially, did not properly protect u.s. lives and u.s. property. >> all right, andrea. it sounds like people are trying to get in touch with you. we'll let you work the phones for a minute. richard, let me go back to you. we should take a step back and...
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when the gadhafi regime came to an end, chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new libya and worked tirelessly to support this young democracy. i think both secretary clinton and i relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. he was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps. along with his colleagues, chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. today the loss of these four americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. i have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who loved them back home. of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation, as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. we mourned with the families who were lost on that day. i visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in iraq and afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of arlington cemetery and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded w
when the gadhafi regime came to an end, chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new libya and worked tirelessly to support this young democracy. i think both secretary clinton and i relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. he was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps. along with his colleagues, chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. today...